Debian Buster - July 13, 2019

This weeks challenge will be the newly released Debian Buster.

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/

Note on the bottom of the page the download links to the “nonm-free” versions that have “non-free” firmware.

The link to “non-free” is here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.0.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-10.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso

Wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/

Support resources: https://www.debian.org/support

Documentation: https://www.debian.org/doc/

Help and contributions: https://www.debian.org/intro/help

Reminder sudo is not configured for your user by default

Add contrib and non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list if you need “non-free” stuff like nVidia drivers

So I installed Buster in a VM and it seems to be working well enough. Still not convinced I would prefer it over something like Kubuntu. I think you can get it to just about anything *buntu can do but it seems like there still isn’t much focus on using it as a end user desktop system.

After installing buster, it’s no doubt that it’s pretty rock solid and stable for me but I do have some issues with getting certain programs to work because of missing dependencies or libraries

Are you running Plasma too?

I chose the stock Debian which is bland xfce

Well i at start didnt have great experiance first of all virtubox isnt in any buster repos or backports, so i had to use oracles repository which at that tims didnt even have buster repo so i had to rely on ubuntu version of repo so it would install. After that figured my wifi doesnt work no kernel module for it and it normaly works on ubuntu arch and anything else i put on laptop it is a realtek wifi and debian reports it needa rtl8822be otherwise debian it works ok, i installed it with nonfree netinstall and installed plasma desktop which while i hated plasma before now i can tolerate it even tho single click by default drove me crazy.

Missing dependencies is weird. Usually Debian is tested 6 ways to Sunday before release.

@kc2bez I think it’s more about new programs wanting different or more up to date libraries. Maybe dependencies was the wrong word to use. Like I can’t get google-play-music-desktop-player to open because of a missing library

Yea that gonna will be a problem like my wifi which is appearently(according to internet) to new to be in repos

Oh ok, I got ya. That is an issue for sure.

Ugh yes! This is an awesome way to do it! This way you can just link to this post in Telegram and keep it short and simple!

Someone even asked if people would swap from Ubuntu based distros, I had a chuckle.

The installer for me was great. The OS with XFCE runs like a champ. What I threw at it, worked just fine. Props out to Debian for having great Linux servers IMO.

Well you are pretty shy and don’t often mention which distro you prefer.

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Buster kde install was more straightforward than expected on Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 3 i7 5600u. Typical touchpad nonsense–had to enable mouse click emulation had no right click, middle click etc… Desktop effects had no window open/close animations (fade, glide, scale) which is fine bc they hardly ever work properly anyway in my experience. Also got some random error, “cannont connect to Fctix by DBus, is Fctix running” Not sure what that was about. I also had problems with Konsole closing unexpectedly with configuration file invalid “konsole.knsrc”. But for me the biggest deal buster (see what I did there) was that it was Plasma 5.14 which after running 5.16 on Arch and Neon seems so 2018. So in the end Buster was a bust for me. I’ll stick with Arch and Neon. In fact I already installed Neon over it on this X1 so I can get back Plasma 5.16 which is Kawesome!

Debian is for servers imho, it’ll never be a popular desktop OS.

I installed Debian 9 and upgraded to Debian 10 back when Debian 10 was Debian Testing on a Thinkpad. I had issues with xbacklight but other than that, its been on my laptop for several months. I’m very happy with it.

This is the second week of having Debian Buster w/ GNOME Wayland on my Thinkpad and so far it’s still going strong. :slight_smile:

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That’s awesome! Would you say GNOME Wayland is stable and complete enough for daily use? Was Debian right in making it the default?

This tip came from a YouTube commentor (Greg Halverson, RHCE):

Tip Debian 10 / KDE users, if you try to use Discover for system updates, it will not work out of the box. It gives an error related to “cache access while offline”. Tracking this down, apparently Discover uses Network-manager to determine online status before running APT. If you install “network-manager-config-connectivity-debian” and reboot, it all works fine!